tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-931981138747432610.post2525608457417815811..comments2024-03-25T09:03:39.020-07:00Comments on The Uncrushable Jersey Dress: Betty by the Numbers: Names ReduxBetty Debbiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16446092401692468002noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-931981138747432610.post-66154006686731095082013-03-31T09:45:19.263-07:002013-03-31T09:45:19.263-07:00Geoffrey Greymantle - and what is a "greymant...Geoffrey Greymantle - and what is a "greymantle"? <br /><br />A greymantle is a grey mantle, a piece of clothing. <br /><a href="http://www.columbia.edu/cu/lweb/digital/collections/cul/texts/ldpd_6873735_000/pages/ldpd_6873735_000_00000211.html" rel="nofollow"><b>Gosfridus</b></a> / <a href="http://books.google.de/books?id=tXN0eml3uAYC&pg=PA480&lpg=PA480&dq=%22grisa+tunica%22&source=bl&ots=Y5Rr0EbfXH&sig=LtogBJlz9rNJ4dWNli3n9TWjd_I&hl=de&sa=X&ei=5lhYUZ-pDMfAtAba9YGYAQ&ved=0CEMQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=%22grisa%20tunica%22&f=false" rel="nofollow"><b>Gaufridus</b></a> <b>Grisa Tunica</b><br /><br />Venerunt statuto die Parisius convocati principes, duces videlicet et consules, et totius Franciæ magnates omnesque majores natu quorum peritia præminebat simul in aula regis convenerunt. <b>Gaufridus comes Andegavis</b>, indutus <b>tunica</b> illius panni <b>quem Franci grisetum vocant</b>, nos Andegavis buretum, inter principes sedebat. Molendinarius ad hoc a rege evocatus, affixis oculis, ipsum agnovit, et licentia a rege postulata, vultu jucundus ad Consulem accessit, qui genu flexo, arrepta Comitis tunica, Regis et cæteris ait: “Hic cum hac <b>grisa tunica</b>, sternendo Danum, Francorum opprobrium abstulit et exerciui eorum terrorem incussit.” Rex ut deinceps <b>Gaufridus Grisa Tunica</b> vocaretur edixit, cui omnis multitudo assensum præbuit<br /><br /><br /><a href="http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/Anjou.asp" rel="nofollow"><b>Geoffrey Greymantle</b></a><br /><br />Now on the appointed day the princes who had been summoned, namely the dukes and consuls and the magnates of all France, and all of those of high birth, known for their skill, gathered in the royal hall. <b>Geoffrey count of Anjou</b>, garbed in a tunic of that cloth <b>which the French call grisetum</b>, and we Angevins buretum, seated himself among the princes. Now the miller, who had been summoned for this purpose by the king, knew Geoffrey the moment he laid eyes on him and, with the king's permission, approached the consul with a joyous expression. On bended knee, having grasped the count's tunic, he said to the king and the others, "this man, in this <b>grey shirt</b>, struck down the Dane and lifted away the shame of the Franks, and struck terror into their army." The king proclaimed that thereafter he should be called <b>Geoffrey Greymantle</b>, and the whole assembly gave its assent.<br /><br />Betty Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15517346001348814015noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-931981138747432610.post-83689059740683313102012-10-25T17:15:58.502-07:002012-10-25T17:15:58.502-07:00Y'know how the first-born sons of Dutch doctor...Y'know how the first-born sons of Dutch doctors and English nurses are usually named for their fathers, or at least a great-uncle? I recently finished up a bio of Eleanor of Aquitaine (by Alison Weir and very good), and was fascinated by the nicknames assigned to various counts, dukes, princes and kings to distinguish them from their ancestors with the exact same names. I cheerfully offered the Jonkheer a new nickname, chosen from one of the many family trees. "The Red" didn't work, and "The Young" no longer applies; "The Good" seems a bit of a stretch, frankly, and what is a "greymantle"?<br /><br />Then I found it: Fulk IV, called "the Surly." His nickname in whatever version of French they used in Anjou in the 11th century was "le Rechin," which doesn't translate today, but is variously begged as "the Ill-tempered," "the quarreler" and "the heroic." Aaww. There you go, sweetie.Betty van den Betsyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05462647734423787992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-931981138747432610.post-31315319397236763912012-10-19T21:22:45.725-07:002012-10-19T21:22:45.725-07:00I like that idea a lot! I'd love to see peopl...I like that idea a lot! I'd love to see people's favorites.<br /><br />Betty AnoninTXAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-931981138747432610.post-78457900258613170622012-10-19T20:33:33.596-07:002012-10-19T20:33:33.596-07:00I like "Betty" by the numbers... - Inter...I like "Betty" by the numbers... - Interesting and FUNNY... - It would be nice to have it's own "sub-page" so we can read them all in one place.. - THOUGH I take exception to the making fun of Krijn's first and last name (He's a favorite of mine, since I read the book a month ago... - Thank Goodness though Beatrice starts calling him by his first name pretty quickly!) :) I'd be interested in "Betty by the numbers for Ratings/Rankings from the reviews" and I'd like a page for posters to post their "top" 20 list of favorite Betty's (then you could do the Numbers for that too! :).... - I'd like to see that list of who likes what book best- I'm curious that way! BettyMaryinNHnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-931981138747432610.post-81423385247282663252012-10-19T12:17:46.875-07:002012-10-19T12:17:46.875-07:00I counted the names of my graduation class, back w...I counted the names of my graduation class, back when Betty van den Betsy published her post <i>Betty by the Numbers: Names</i>. I happened to have a document on my computer from our latest class reunion.<br />There were 111 students in total.<br /><br /><b>First Names</b><br />Girls (66):<br /><b>One</b> name was shared by <b>five</b> girls,<br /><b>four</b> names had <b>three</b> bearers thereof, (one with a variation in spelling 2xn/1xnn),<br /><b>six</b> names were shared by <b>two</b> girls each, and<br /><b>thirty-seven</b> names had just <b>one</b> bearer.<br /><br />Boys (45): <br /><b>One</b> name was shared by <b>four</b> boys,<br /><b>five</b> names had <b>three</b> bearers, (one with a variation in spelling 2xC/1xK),<br /><b>three</b> names were shared by <b>two</b> boys each, and<br /><b>twenty</b> names had just <b>one</b> bearer.<br /><br /><b>Surnames</b><br /><b>One</b> surname was shared by <b>three</b> students, two girls and one boy,<br /><b>two</b> surnames had <b>two</b> bearers each, one was shared by two girls, one by one girl and one boy,<br /><b>104</b> surnames had just one single bearer.<br /><br />These names were shared, or not shared by people born within the span of about three years. The Great Bettys characters "were born" within the span of about thirty years. All things considered, the number of repeats in her novels does not seem unrealistic to me.Betty Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15517346001348814015noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-931981138747432610.post-90566991290169755922012-10-17T12:29:23.070-07:002012-10-17T12:29:23.070-07:00P. S.: I think I still have Eric Wilson The Ghost ...P. S.: I think I still have Eric Wilson <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Ghost-Lunenburg-Wilson-Mysteries-ebook/dp/B008EMEIUY" rel="nofollow">The Ghost of Lunenburg Manor</a> somewhere in one of my bookcases.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-931981138747432610.post-25318791430182742062012-10-17T08:47:52.695-07:002012-10-17T08:47:52.695-07:00BbtN Redux ™, what a great idea! The Great Betty i...<b>BbtN Redux</b> ™, what a great idea! The Great Betty in a nutshell. I still cannot like Daniel Day Lewis, there is something sinister about him. The next time one of you ladies enthuses about some guy I may feel tempted to teach you a little Danish, ha ha.<br />Saw Benedict on tv, yesterday. His red shoes were pointed out.<br />Hyphenated last names are not necessarily signs of "upper-class-ish-ness" in my country. There are a number of surnames starting with Müller-... and Mayer/Meier/Meyer-..., for example. Hyphenated surnames became all the rage when the law was changed and allowed people to hyphenate their names upon marriage. Often with peculiar (read: ludicrous) results.<br />I see Betty Barbara and Lunenburg, Nova Scotia on the globe, which reminds me. Earlier today, I saw Lunenburg and at the same time someone from <b>Leyton, Waltham Forest</b>!!! The Great Betty's place of birth.Betty Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15517346001348814015noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-931981138747432610.post-6918920230120303582012-10-17T07:57:34.682-07:002012-10-17T07:57:34.682-07:00I think it's interesting that she has so many ...I think it's interesting that she has so many repeats. I'd think that an author would really have to LOVE a name to put it in more than one of their books, and ditto for their editor to accept a repeat. I think I'd probably be scouring baby name books before I went with something I'd done before.<br /><br />Of course, it's a good thing I don't write romance, because I had a heck of a time just naming my two girls. We didn't know what we were having either time, so we had a girl and boy name for both. The boy name was easy (Daniel Ethan) but I was super picky about girl names. I even had criteria:<br /><br />1. It needed to actually mean something (not recently made up). <br />2. Not easily shortened to a nickname. <br />3. Not something that would sound silly once she's in a rest home (an 89 year old Kitzi or something similar). <br />4. It needed to be spelled correctly (no Madysyn for me, thanks).<br />5. It couldn't make weird words when initialized. <br /><br />We ended up with Audrey Caroline (for me) and Meredith Danielle (for my DH, whose middle is Daniel, hence the boy's name), and I think we did a pretty good job, although Meredith does get called Mer all the time. Oh well. Four out of five isn't bad. <br /><br />All that to say I could have never picked out 135 girl names without much pulling of hair and gnashing of teeth, and that's not even thinking about last names! :)Betty Carolinehttp://www.lifeunfocused.comnoreply@blogger.com